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Defining Dr. Larry Crabb’s “new (1996), clearer vision and burden for ministry” and the need for Elder-Shepherds who above everything else dispense grace in to the deepest parts of another’s soul.
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Pursuing God by facing what’s true in my life and heart and by asking the hard questions. Learning to not expect an answer but to wait for God to disclose Himself to me.
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If the real battle is to keep from making an idol of desire, if the real battle is to let our choices be ruled by a desire for God that sometimes leaves us empty and lonely, then, though we can rightly celebrate whatever blessings come our way and enjoy the pleasure they bring, we must never deposit that pleasure in the bank and write checks on that account. We must rather hope in Christ when life makes no sense, when sin does a better job of relieving emptiness than righteous living. We must write checks on the account of faith. Our hope must be fixed on Jesus, and the hope his presence brings, not on satisfied desire in this life.
With that slowly growing understanding of the battle going on in me and in my brother,
I must pray. I must engage in battle prayer, the kind that is carried along by the recognition that the spiritual battle is between the demand for felt satisfaction and the life of faith.
My version of prayer as battle is to imagine my friend in the presence of the Trinity and to eavesdrop on their conversation. I claim to hear neither audible voices nor inerrant messages. I simply reflect on what I know of God as revealed in Scripture – the Father’s unconditional love, the Son’s atoning grace, the Spirit’s gentle rhythm – and I imagine what they are right now saying to my friend and how they are feeling and thinking about him. Whatever impressions come to mind, I register, ponder, and try to put into words.
I pray for my friend who is about to throw away a life of faith for the experience of satisfied desire. I do not pray that he feel more joy in following Christ than in sin. I pray that he would get in touch with a longing to know God that is stronger than his desire for a present experience of joy and life. I imagine him in the presence of the Trinity. I sense their pain as their child values the experience coming from a woman who is not his wife over the hope they have promised, the hope that it cost the death of Jesus to provide.
I spent an evening telling him what I heard. He called me a day later. He told me he was ending his relationship with this woman. His words were,
“I can explain my decision only as the work of God in answer to prayer. It feels awful but in some strange way, it’s what I want to do.”
I since have been told he has re-entered his fleshmate relationship.
I’m afraid the heresy is still alive in his mind, that he may still believe that the choices we make should be determined by the joy they will bring in this life. Does he think he’ll feel better after giving up the other woman? That he’ll experience a fullness of joy that will make the pleasure he enjoys with the other woman pale in comparison? And does the other woman sincerely believe she is entering a relationship with a strong man who will pour strength and life into her soul? I don’t know. Will he in fact give her up? Or will he go back to her when he discovers that his soul experienced more aliveness with her than in following God? Again, I don’t know.
So I keep praying. Prayer is battle.
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A friend of mine is right now fighting the battle of his life – and at this moment he is losing. The dark side seems to be winning. He has turned his back on his wife and children and ministry in order to keep experiencing the satisfaction he is finding in relationship with another woman. The satisfaction is not sexual. That would be easier to explain and argue against.
He describes his experience as soul joy, the profound sensation of feeling alive, free, connected, and wanted. It is an intensity of fulfillment that he does feel, that decades of (as best he knew) seriously and fervently following Christ has never provided. He sees himself as built for this joy, and can recognize only two options: pursue the experience and walk away from what he has always understood the Bible commands or come back to the Christian fold and give up all hope of deep joy in this life. That’s how he sees things. How should I respond? How should I pray? How should the community of family and friends that love him and cannot and should not give up on him – respond? How should we pray?
As a younger man, I can recall persuading myself that the clean pleasure of coming home to my wife having not looked at pornography on the hotel television was enough to keep me on the straight and narrow path. The argument is typically “Christian”: the felt joys of obedience exceed the felt pleasures of sin. We hear it all the time.
But that’s true only when, as in my case, I really like my wife. As long as I have blessings that I sincerely enjoy, then the moral path allows me to keep on enjoying those blessings. But notice, the joy is not the enjoyment of God. It is the enjoyment of blessings. Remove the blessings, give the man a wife that for whatever complex of reasons he does not enjoy, and the pleasures of sin may exceed the pleasures of holiness.
The old hymn says “There is joy in serving Jesus”. And there is. But if we are counting on an experience of soul satisfaction to reliably accompany obedience and if we expect that our felt pleasure in doing good will exceed the pleasure we could enjoy by indulging our favorite sin, then it won’t take long till sin will seem irresistible.
Here’s the point: if we live for an experience of joy, if we elevate desire to central status and live for nothing higher than its felt satisfaction, then we no longer are living by faith. We are idolaters worshipping desire. We are no longer living for God.
I agree with Jonathan Edwards that there is no incompatibility between our unquenchable longing for happiness and the command to worship God. But if God becomes the means and our happiness becomes the point, then we are self-obsessed pragmatists, not worshippers. When God is the point and obedience designed to bringhim pleasure becomes the focus, then there will eventually be a fullness of joy that makes sin unthinkable and unappealing, thoroughly repulsive.
But that fullness of joy comes later, in heaven. In this life, it’s more about hope than about joy. Joy now is wrapped up in communing with the Son in His delight in the Father, communing with the Father in his exaltation of the Son, and communing with the Spirit in His obsession with seeing the Father and the Son glorified. But that joy, though real and growing, will not be complete until we are literally in the presence of the Trinity, dancing forever in perfect rhythm and unspeakable ecstasy (See Eph. 3:19). In this life, now, it’s by faith that we live, by faith that joy is in Jesus, even when following him yields suffering. Of course there are seasons of great joy, and there is an abiding sense that we belong to the most wonderful Person in the universe, that the privilege of knowing him really does exceed all other blessings whether we feel it or not, and that living for him is what we most want to do. But if we’re living for the maximum sense of pleasurable satisfaction now, we will obey God only if he provides blessings that obedience allows us to continue enjoying. Take away the blessings and live life to gain satisfaction of even the noblest human desires and eventually you’ll find yourself moving away from God.
One prevailing heresy in evangelical culture is that living for Jesus reliably provides the soul with a depth of satisfaction that exceeds the satisfaction found in sin. It is that heresy that keeps a pastor I know driven in his ministry. He works long hours, he studies hard, he is well disciplined in his habits, his church is growing, he is highly respected – and he keeps living the “Christian” life because it keeps him feeling important and alive. He is living for satisfied desire, not for God. It just so happens that what we would call a Christian lifestyle provides him with enough pleasure to keep him going. So he does, like a rat on a treadmill, feeling a weariness that he mistakes for the cost of discipleship.
Let him become honest enough to face the emptiness in his soul that every self-aware pilgrim feels (the Bible calls it groaning) and, at the same time, keep him believing the lie that serving Jesus is supposed to relieve emptiness, and you have a pastor ripe for an affair, or further burnout or an extra dose of legalism. Satan has a golden opportunity to bring along just the right woman that can become his soulmate, (really his fleshmate), and the appeal will be experienced as irresistible. Or the pastor will become disillusioned and drop out, or he might become more rigid and relationally aloof, and more driven and demanding in his role as spiritual leader.
We’re trying very hard in Christian circles to convince ourselves that even without the prospect of heaven, the Christian life is worth living. It’s not. Unless, like me, you’ve been blessed with a spouse you genuinely like, kids who delight your heart, a job or ministry that provides both meaning and income, and decent health. Then keeping your nose clean makes sense as long as the blessings keep coming. Why give up the enjoyment of what you have? Christian living then is pragmatically smart.
But mess with the blessings, let just enough go wrong to reduce the pleasure you feel in them to a lesser intensity than the pleasure that comes from bagging Christian standards and doing whatever makes you feel alive, and doing wrong will seem justified, necessary, legitimate, reasonable. The wrong way will seem right. That scenario has led to countless divorces.
The real battle in the human soul that knows Jesus is not to find a way to feel now what we long to feel in our inmost being, whether it’s love, meaning, or the satisfaction of living an other-centered life in the service of a cause greater than oneself. The real battle is to continue on in faithfulness even when faithfulness brings no immediate experience of joy, even when it brings no prospect of felt joy until heaven. That’s what it means to live by faith. That’s the message of Hebrews 11. That’s the cornerstone of the gospel, first declared by Habakkuk when he quoted God saying, “The just shall live by faith” (Hab. 2:4), then established by Paul as the core of the spiritual journey.
My friend followed Jesus for several decades. It didn’t “work”. He hoped that he would feel an overwhelming satisfaction that would make resisting sin as easy as passing by dog food for prime rib. He believed the prevailing heresy of the evangelical church that the experience of satisfaction is for now, that living by faith does not delay satisfaction in hope, but provides satisfaction in experience. He discovered that a woman who it was not God’s will for him to fully enjoy provided more soul joy than anything he had known in years of faithfulness to the will of God. For him, the call to obedience meant giving up joy and returning to lifeless Christianity.
He was not helped by the erroneous but popular teaching that there is a way to feel so alive in God that sin loses its appeal, and that pursuing the experience of aliveness is the legitimate center of the spiritual adventure. That teaching is deadly, all the more so because it’s so near the truth. Knowing God is life. But living to feel alive is not the same as living to know and glorify God. When the bottom line is reached, the issue is not finding an experience of overwhelming joy in knowing Jesus. That will happen later. It may happen now. If it does, praise God. When the bottom line is reached, the issue is faith: what do you most deeply believe? How then shall you live? Heaven is coming up. Only that fact makes sense of the choice to persevere when blessings are withheld, when emptiness is seemingly unending, when anguish of soul eclipses even the prospect of joy.
Fighting the Battle through Prayer
If the real battle is to keep from making an idol of desire, if the real battle is to let our choices be ruled by a desire for God that sometimes leaves us empty and lonely, then, though we can rightly celebrate whatever blessings come our way and enjoy the pleasure they bring, we must never deposit that pleasure in the bank and write checks on that account. We must rather hope in Christ when life makes no sense, when sin does a better job of relieving emptiness than righteous living. We must write checks on the account of faith. Our hope must be fixed on Jesus, and the hope his presence brings, not on satisfied desire in this life.
With that slowly growing understanding of the battle going on in me and in my brother, I must pray. I must engage in battle prayer, the kind that is carried along by the recognition that the spiritual battle is between the demand for felt satisfaction and the life of faith.
My version of prayer as battle is to imagine my friend in the presence of the Trinity and to eavesdrop on their conversation. I claim to hear neither audible voices nor inerrant messages. I simply reflect on what I know of God as revealed in Scripture – the Father’s unconditional love, the Son’s atoning grace, the Spirit’s gentle rhythm – and I imagine what they are right now saying to my friend and how they are feeling and thinking about him. Whatever impressions come to mind, I register, ponder, and try to put into words.
I pray for my friend who is about to throw away a life of faith for the experience of satisfied desire. I do not pray that he feel more joy in following Christ than in sin. I pray that he would get in touch with a longing to know God that is stronger than his desire for a present experience of joy and life. I imagine him in the presence of the Trinity. I sense their pain as their child values the experience coming from a woman who is not his wife over the hope they have promised, the hope that it cost the death of Jesus to provide.
I spent an evening telling him what I heard. He called me a day later. He told me he was ending his relationship with this woman. His words were, “I can explain my decision only as the work of God in answer to prayer. It feels awful but in some strange way, it’s what I want to do.” I since have been told he has re-entered his fleshmate relationship.
I’m afraid the heresy is still alive in his mind, that he may still believe that the choices we make should be determined by the joy they will bring in this life. Does he think he’ll feel better after giving up the other woman? That he’ll experience a fullness of joy that will make the pleasure he enjoys with the other woman pale in comparison? And does the other woman sincerely believe she is entering a relationship with a strong man who will pour strength and life into her soul? I don’t know. Will he in fact give her up? Or will he go back to her when he discovers that his soul experienced more aliveness with her than in following God? Again, I don’t know.
So I keep praying. Prayer is battle.
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Defend / Explain
A common way to reject a feeling is to defend or explain yourself after your spouse tells you how he or she feels. The effect is to tune in to how you feel and to miss how your spouse feels.
‘The reason I said that .. “What I meant was ..
Apologize
Apologies offered too quickly before you let your spouse know that you understand the feelings that were shared usually mean nothing. They really amount to the message “I don’t want to discuss this further and I don’t really want to hear how badly I hurt you. Maybe a quick apology will end this painful conversation.”
“I’m really sorry that…” I shouldn’t have said that
Attack
If your spouse tells you when you made her feel bad, then informing her when she made you feel bad is a subtle but very real and devastating Attack. The result will be either a long and heated series of counterattacks or a retreat into cold silence.
” I admit what I did was wrong, but you … “Well, maybe you’re right, but what I can’t understand is why you ..
Advise
When your spouse shares a burden or struggle, don’t immediately offer Advice. The discouraged husband desired the encouragement of a wife who respected him, not the ideas of a counselor who thought he needed “help.” Well meaning wives often offer advice to troubled husbands, not realizing that the message their husbands hear is “Listen, you weakling, I’ll tell you how to handle this, since you’re making such a mess out of it!”
“Maybe you should …” ” It seems t o me that if you ..
Disdain
When your partner shares a feeling, never Disdain – telling him or her not to feel “that way.” Even when you are trying to be encouraging, to inform someone not to experience an emotion he or she has just expressed often comes across as a putdown. Sentences like “Honey, you shouldn’t feel that way” or “There’s no reason to feel so worried (hurt, etc.)” should be avoided.
” I don’t really see why you feel . . “Gee, honey, there’s no need to feel . .
Correct
Another effective but subtle technique for rejecting feelings is to correct a person’s evaluation of the problem that is generating an emotion. To tell the person what the problem “really is” and what he or she should therefore be feeling does not communicate acceptance. At some point, of course, it may be necessary to suggest an accurate perception of events, but to do so immediately after a feeling is expressed conveys rejection
“What I think you really mean is .. “I don’t think you feel . .
Reflect the feeling back like a mirror
” It sounds as if you feel …” “Guess you really felt . . when .
Clarify by describing what you heard and asking if you heard correctly.
“Are you saying that . . . ” I wonder if you feel ..
Explore what was meant by asking questions.
“I’m not sure what you mean … “When else do you feel like that? I don’t quite understand how you feel l about . .
Extend by suggesting other feelings that are related to what has been shared.
“You really felt . . . Did you also feel . . . ” I can see that you feel.. . If I were in your shoes, I might also feel . . Do you feel like that?”
How to Respond When Your Spouse Shares Feelings Worksheet
One of the most difficult but important skills, to develop is the ability to help our spouses feel accepted when they share a feeling with us. Many of us are not aware of the dozens of ways we convey criticism or intolerance or insensitivity when our spouses express their feelings.
Whenever we respond negatively, our mates feel hurt and hide behind whatever mask protects them from further hurt. This exercise is designed to help you learn how to respond to your spouse’s feelings in a way that will increase a sense of warmth, understanding, and closeness.
When your partner tells you how he or she feels, you must treat that feeling with care. Remember that when someone really accepts your feelings, you tend to feel understood and respected and you are inclined to share warmly more of your own feelings.
Couples should complete this exercise together. Read through the following interactions between a husband and wife in which one partner shares a feeling and the other responds. In each case decide whether the partner who responds (the second speaker) really communicates acceptance (+) or rejection (-) of the feeling.
Interaction 1
Wife: “I really felt hurt last night because it seemed to me that you were demanding sex from me
whether I felt like it or not. I just didn’t feel very important to you.”
Husband: “Honey, I really didn’t intend to force you into anything. I thought you wanted to make love.”
Interaction 2
Husband: “At the Bible study last night, when I said what I thought that verse meant, you frowned and
said, ‘Oh, I don’t think it means that.’ I felt like walking out and never coming back. I’m still mad about it!”
Wife: “Oh honey, I’m so sorry, I really feel bad that I did that to you.”
Interaction 3
Wife: “Every time you mention my weight, I just get so frustrated that I feel like eating more, especially
when you say something in front of others. I feel absolutely crushed when you say anything about my
weight. I already feel bad enough about it.”
Husband: “I think I sometimes say things like that just to get even for your remarks about our finances.
When you tell people that we drive our old car because we can’t afford a new one, I feel like it’s a slam at me, and I get mad!”
Interaction 4
Husband: “Business pressures are really getting to me. I’m sick and tired of going to work. All I do is
worry all day whether I’m going to make any sales. It’s just too much pressure.”
Wife: “Dear, maybe you should look for a job where there aren’t so many pressures.”
Interaction 5
Wife: “Tomorrow I have to get up and address our women’s group to give a report on our project. I’m
really a nervous wreck about it!”
Husband: “Honey, you’ll do great! You always get nervous before something like this, but it always goes
super. You don’t need to be afraid.”
Interaction 6
Husband: “I’m really feeling guilty about the amount of time I’m away from the family. I haven’t sat down to play a game with you and the kids for months.”
Wife: ” I think the real problem is that you worry too much about our financial situation. That’s what keeps you working so many hours. We’d all rather have less money and more of you.”
Using the How to Respond Chart, evaluate the ways the above expressions of feelings were rejected in the responses. On a separate piece of paper, Husbands, read the feelings shared by the wife in interactions 1, 3, and 5. Write out a response for each one that you think would convey acceptance of the feeling. Wives do the same for interactions 2, 4 and 6. After you have completed your responses, give them to your spouses to respond as to whether the new response would have helped them feel accepted. Then using the same Interactions, write new responses that will Reflect, Explore,
Clarify or Extend the feelings expressed. Use the Guidelines for help if necessary.
(from The Marriage Builder, Larry Crabb)
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